tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post2335745651159811802..comments2024-03-28T20:53:49.167-04:00Comments on The Adventures of Roberta X: Prosecutor Clears Kroger ShooterRoberta Xhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09956807794520627885noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-30885956731875310682012-01-06T11:05:15.943-05:002012-01-06T11:05:15.943-05:00"As for Kroger, why did they hire that 'u...<i>"As for Kroger, why did they hire that 'unarmed security guard'?"</i><br /><br />To intimidate/ impress/ otherwise influence the behavior of the customers that weren't going to be a problem anyway.<br /><br />Armed security guards in a grocery store brings to mind the old joke about being a waist gunner on a bread truck.rickn8orhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16911803300343351338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-38209980480865260532012-01-06T09:07:23.439-05:002012-01-06T09:07:23.439-05:00Tam,
Thanks for that, but really, madame, you wou...Tam,<br /><br />Thanks for that, but really, madame, you wound me.<br /><br />I was trying to make a subtle distinction between the God-given right to self-defense and the codified privilege of self-defense; the difference between morality and law.<br /><br />Instead of a presumption of innocence, you can bet the first thing the po-leece did was to disarm Elliott, then confiscate his weapon and take him downtown for questioning under some 100-watt light bulbs. And if he had so much as an unpaid parking ticket, he'd have spent the night in the hoosegow. That sounds like a presumption of guilt.<br /><br />As for Kroger, why did they hire that "unarmed security guard"? <br /><br />DaveUnderground Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04529765554335480307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-50861126790513590362012-01-05T23:21:06.105-05:002012-01-05T23:21:06.105-05:00The comments on the story you linked are bizarre. ...The comments on the story you linked are bizarre. From the commentor insinuating that Elliott was actually a mass murderer in waiting to the armed robber fan club commentors.Cincinnatushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10424218376882403880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-91420475308451387472012-01-05T19:12:04.030-05:002012-01-05T19:12:04.030-05:00Yeah, and not just any laws but a forcible felony
...Yeah, and not just any laws but a forcible felony<br /><br />Indiana code on use of deadly force.<br /><br />http://www.in.gov/legislative/ic/code/title35/ar41/ch3.htmlThe Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15173903164209256926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-8454093696128408112012-01-05T18:44:46.630-05:002012-01-05T18:44:46.630-05:00Underground Carpenter,
"It sounds as if the ...Underground Carpenter,<br /><br />"<i>It sounds as if the prosecutor only OK'ed the shooting because it prevented laws from being broken.</i>"<br /><br />Uh, that's the only time it's okay to shoot somebody. If you shoot someone who's not breaking any laws, that's called "murder".Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-24698513736200299162012-01-05T15:45:27.950-05:002012-01-05T15:45:27.950-05:00Something tells me that all the employees at that ...Something tells me that all the employees at that particular Krogers knew that Elliot had his CHP and carried to work all the time, and were glad of it. So if Corporate asks the Manager why he allowed his Employees to be Armed, well, can they fire everyone? And think of THAT action heading to the NRLB.Bubblehead Les.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00730873284089958084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-82125349430102018082012-01-05T15:44:27.906-05:002012-01-05T15:44:27.906-05:00Something tells me that all the employees at that ...Something tells me that all the employees at that particular Krogers knew that Elliot had his CHP and carried to work all the time, and were glad of it. So if Corporate asks the Manager why he allowed his Employees to be Armed, well, can they fire everyone? And think of THAT action heading to the NRLB.Bubblehead Les.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00730873284089958084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-16332140054268115022012-01-05T15:07:32.879-05:002012-01-05T15:07:32.879-05:00Rick, I agree 100%.Rick, I agree 100%.Fuzzy Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03802539927743643041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-69501593405435577672012-01-05T12:31:38.270-05:002012-01-05T12:31:38.270-05:00A local town councel here voted unanamously to not...A local town councel here voted unanamously to not put restrictions on NC conceal carry holders: restrictions requestd by the police chief and the town manager.<br /><br />They wanted to know how this was going to restrict the bad guys.<br /><br />I was amazed.russell1200https://www.blogger.com/profile/16258915475311426433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-24107129624154889212012-01-05T11:50:15.428-05:002012-01-05T11:50:15.428-05:00Tango Juliet, I'd bet that they can him once t...Tango Juliet, I'd bet that they can him once the story dies down. The weasels who run large corporations regard expending a few employees now and then to be preferable to defending the inevitable litigation when an employee caps a bad guy.Comrade Misfithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15404477636451308763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-11130501724958687692012-01-05T10:44:06.909-05:002012-01-05T10:44:06.909-05:00Nathan, I hope the employee makes a stink when/if ...Nathan, I hope the employee makes a stink when/if they terminate him. That way, we can start mailing our Kroger customer loyalty cards to the home office.<br /><br />I'm not so set in my ways that I can't change my grocery store/ gas station/ pharmacy.rickn8orhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16911803300343351338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-31640157200140686322012-01-05T10:36:25.704-05:002012-01-05T10:36:25.704-05:00Hi RX,
"The Marion County prosecutor says un...Hi RX,<br /><br /><i><b>"The Marion County prosecutor says under Indiana law, the shooting was justified to prevent the commission of a forcible felony (robbery and criminal confinement) and based upon Indiana law pertaining to self-defense and defense of others."</b></i><br /><br />It sounds as if the prosecutor only OK'ed the shooting because it prevented laws from being broken. That might just have been the reporter's slant, but things are not well in the republic when some functionary of the law needs a day or two to decide whether or not you've committed a crime.<br /><br />DaveUnderground Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04529765554335480307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-30256114444203625062012-01-05T08:37:51.799-05:002012-01-05T08:37:51.799-05:00Best guess: They will wait for the PR storm to bl...Best guess: They will wait for the PR storm to blow over and then terminate him quietly.Fuzzy Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03802539927743643041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-66712501963821485982012-01-05T08:26:15.223-05:002012-01-05T08:26:15.223-05:00I can only wish the shooter the best. I have a fe...I can only wish the shooter the best. I have a feeling Kroger's isn't going to be kind to him.Tango Juliethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07593296126387219845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-81730203395652850262012-01-05T08:23:11.394-05:002012-01-05T08:23:11.394-05:00If they fined the guy $500, he'd probably clea...If they fined the guy $500, he'd probably clear over four grand in donations.Comrade Misfithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15404477636451308763noreply@blogger.com