tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post5888791246529160082..comments2024-03-28T20:53:49.167-04:00Comments on The Adventures of Roberta X: Smoldering-Pants BrigadeRoberta Xhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09956807794520627885noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-66028198923064353322012-01-08T16:42:10.039-05:002012-01-08T16:42:10.039-05:00Divemedic, you've got part of an argument ther...Divemedic, you've got part of an argument there, but without Abolitionism, there wouldn't have been a Civil War--it kinda sorta was about slavery. <br /><br />Maybe not 100%, but slavery had something to do with it.<br /><br />Mike JamesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-62678092251734344152012-01-08T01:55:49.927-05:002012-01-08T01:55:49.927-05:00Roberta
Statistical recording of homicides here i...Roberta<br /><br />Statistical recording of homicides here in the UK has always been a political football. Up until 1997 each crime was recorded as a single instance of homicide, even if there were multiple victims (Scotland still does record this way).<br /><br />www.parliament.uk/commons/lib/research/rp99/rp99-056.pdf<br /><br />The definition they use is:<br /><br />"homicide includes the offences of murder, manslaughter and<br />infanticide"<br /><br />and:<br /><br />"Around 15% of homicides as recorded by<br />the police are generally reclassified as other offences following police and court action."<br /><br />So the statistics are hardly reliable. The 'funniest' example of this is the rates of 'race' crime.<br /><br />http://card.wordpress.com/2006/11/12/the-hidden-white-victims-of-racism/<br /><br />"Figures recently published under the Freedom of Information Act seem to support such fears: of the 58 people killed because of the colour of their skin between 1995 and 2004, almost half were described as white.<br /><br />The British Crime Survey reveals that in 2004, 87,000 people who described themselves as black or minority ethnic (BME) had been victims of what they believed was a racially motivated crime. They had suffered 49,000 violent attacks, with 4,000 being wounded.<br /><br />At the same time a staggering 92,000 white people also said that racism was the cause of an attack or crime they had suffered. The number of violent attacks against whites reached 77,000, while the number of white people who reported being wounded was five times the number of black and minority ethnic victims at 20,000."<br /><br />And the kicker?<br /><br />"Among the "race crimes" committed in one year were some 3,100 thefts from Asian's cars, cars deemed to be "racially motivated."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-82410795268339821362012-01-07T18:58:02.402-05:002012-01-07T18:58:02.402-05:00Well, excepting a dozen US cities and three states...Well, excepting a dozen US cities and three states, OUR homicide stats agree pretty well with reality. The error is just about 9% or an extra .43 on the official homicide rate. <br /><br />That is not bad compared to Europe, where crimes against Rom and other despised minorities are not every counted. Greater Europe has a homicide rate of 8.6 in 2010 will probably be 9.0 in 2012. Without including murdered minorities. <br /><br />England's homicide stats are another joke. England, where a dead body is "a matter of interest to the police," and a man is not a murderer until he has been tried, convicted, and the appeals have been exhausted. If that takes too long, the murder is not counted. <br /><br />Nationmasters UN based figures are off the top of some idiot's head. The WHO does much better for most countries. For example, the UN says Mali has a homicide rate of 0.1 per 100K population - while working through the WHO data gives a far more reasonable 19.0 per 100,000 population.<br /><br />As far as actual gun related homicides are concerned, we are somewhere between 40th and 50th. And if I had better data, I could be more specific. <br /><br />In many ways trying to determine homicide numbers and rates is much like trying to measure anode voltage with a 1 ma meter and a divider chain made up of random unmarked resistors.<br /><br />StrangerStrangerhttp://extranosalley.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-53247958021886449092012-01-07T18:24:57.768-05:002012-01-07T18:24:57.768-05:00Does anyone know more about the official listings ...Does anyone know more about the official listings of suicide for Japan? I was told by a fellow college student, who spent a lot of growing up years in Japan (spoke and wrote Japanese well enough to be mistaken for a native speaker) that what we would list as murder+suicide (someone killing another and then themselves, usually family members) was listed in news accounts as suicide. He did not know about official records or statistics. This was many decades ago, so I may be out of date.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-67476786564580178952012-01-07T17:12:14.090-05:002012-01-07T17:12:14.090-05:00Divemedic: how's that affect their suicide rat...Divemedic: how's that affect their suicide rate, then?Roberta Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09956807794520627885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-56783451123660135582012-01-07T16:44:46.509-05:002012-01-07T16:44:46.509-05:00I find it amusing to ask folks who talk about &quo...I find it amusing to ask folks who talk about "developed nations" or "civilized nations" or even "Europe" in relation to comparing us negatively to list the actual countries they mean.<br /><br />Except for Japan, they uniformly cherry-pick North/Northwestern European countries.<br /><br />Their vision of "civilized" is awful Anglo-Saxon/Nordic-centric when it comes down to brass tacks.Matthewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05414687981098467556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-27492166841908010322012-01-07T16:20:08.966-05:002012-01-07T16:20:08.966-05:00McThag: Civil was was not about slavery. It was ab...McThag: Civil was was not about slavery. It was about whether or not the federal government could dictate to the states. <br /><br />Also: Roberta:<br />In Britain, a murder is not considered a murder for statistical purposes, unless someone is convicted for committing said murder. An infant that dies within the first 30 days after birth is not a death, it is a stillbirth.Divemedichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14583007051962299381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-44761112386474439772012-01-07T14:47:37.492-05:002012-01-07T14:47:37.492-05:00The Civil War was about PEOPLE owning people, not ...The Civil War was about PEOPLE owning people, not GOVERNMENT.<br /><br />Can't have competition, dontcha know?Angus McThaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09295013525738248801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-2491045791416478392012-01-07T14:31:14.213-05:002012-01-07T14:31:14.213-05:00Very good summation.
It reminds me of charts like...Very good summation.<br /><br />It reminds me of charts like this<br />http://www.wallsofthecity.net/2011/09/graphics-matter-year-the-third-part-two.html<br /><br />and this<br />http://onlygunsandmoney.blogspot.com/2011/12/every-picture-tells-story-part-two.html<br /><br />Also your aside on "gun-deaths" reminded me of Weer'd's project.<br />http://www.weerdworld.com/category/gun-death/<br /><br />On the rates some antis will say that the US has the highest "Gun murder rate of "civilized" nations."<br /><br />Which has it's own special condescending charm.<br /><br />And speaking of Weerd and the best way to say no, you might be interested in this project of his:<br />http://www.weerdworld.com/2012/friday-reminder/The Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15173903164209256926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-7193007349873784342012-01-07T14:07:22.631-05:002012-01-07T14:07:22.631-05:00Belize!? We're behind Belize!?
Obviously, th...Belize!? We're behind Belize!?<br /><br />Obviously, this is all Bush's Fault.Bubblehead Les.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00730873284089958084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-31082191704734378602012-01-07T12:39:48.235-05:002012-01-07T12:39:48.235-05:00I haven't seen any studies (*at* *all*) showin...I haven't seen any studies (*at* *all*) showing correlation between less access to guns and lower suicide rates (say, Washington D.C. or Chicago before and after their gun bans).<br /><br />I haven't seen any studies (*at* *all*) showing a difference in suicide rate between locales with very different access to guns (say, Washington D.C. and Alexandria, VA) that are not better explained by economic/social differences (standard of living, etc).<br /><br />In other words, there doesn't seem to be any solid peer reviewed work saying that "less guns" correlates with "fewer suicides".<br /><br />I must be missing something obvious, because Progressives keep telling me that they're smarter than I am, and that there's some sort of Republican War On Science, or something.<br /><br />And +5 to Carteach0. I'm glad that I lived in the UK 15 years ago, because I think that it's too dangerous now.Borepatchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05029434172945099693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-33677253684520326832012-01-07T10:52:06.035-05:002012-01-07T10:52:06.035-05:00Cognitive dissonance, when there are two ideas in ...Cognitive dissonance, when there are two ideas in conflict and they cannot be resolved and can manifest as cognitive distortions. See Wikipedia Cognitive distortion for more detailed analysis.<br /><br />The anti-gun folks are a paradox. In their dissonance they claim the high place that they know better. the reality is they no not at all and their grip on reality is exactly the source of their greatest fear. Loss of control!<br /><br />Eck!Eck!https://www.blogger.com/profile/13890237094647111653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-38912798064873209982012-01-07T09:20:48.823-05:002012-01-07T09:20:48.823-05:00Thanks Bobbi!Thanks Bobbi!Tango Juliethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07593296126387219845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-31245344610165606042012-01-07T07:46:32.307-05:002012-01-07T07:46:32.307-05:00Sam Clemens had the defining sentiment regarding s...Sam Clemens had the defining sentiment regarding statistics.<br /><br />Since every country, every state, and every little bedunk county has their own way of reporting these things... the numbers culled as a result are meaningless.<br /><br />Our own Justice (LOLOLOL) Department states that GB under-reports violent crime by more than 100%, in order to keep it looking all nice and steady dontchaknow.Carteachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08468700184940877315noreply@blogger.com