tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post1355847732511280875..comments2024-03-28T20:53:49.167-04:00Comments on The Adventures of Roberta X: Gun Bills In The Indiana General AssemblyRoberta Xhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09956807794520627885noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-8984979579028724112010-01-12T00:19:02.914-05:002010-01-12T00:19:02.914-05:00the --> they and strike half of doubled the.
...the --> they and strike half of doubled the.<br /><br />That said, I would like to see a good locked cars bill passed, because right now I could lose my livelihood for having a firearm to protect myself during working hours. I just don't want to trade some of my right here for a little there.charlesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-84571701949011963102010-01-12T00:13:47.965-05:002010-01-12T00:13:47.965-05:00XXXXXX The new law appears to make that same pers...XXXXXX The new law appears to make that same person a criminal even before the are asked to leave.<br /><br />Punctuation got a little rough up there, I hope it makes sense. Also, IANAL, I just like to read the statutes once in a while to find out if the the line between legal and illegal has moved.charlesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-50527012944961329922010-01-12T00:09:31.711-05:002010-01-12T00:09:31.711-05:00Sorry for the late reply, didn't check back fo...Sorry for the late reply, didn't check back for a while. "School" is not being redefined, but both have language at part (5) that specifically adds in a site of "postsecondary education" as a separate and additional -- to (4)"school" -- prohibited place to park a car with a gun. <br /><br />If I remember correctly, existing law only prohibits possession on or within a certain distance of "school" grounds or a place where a school function is taking place, unless you are a school employee or an invitee to that function.<br /><br />Public colleges and universities -- I do remember something about private colleges being different, not allowed? -- discourage possession through administrative means for students and staff, but the average person who just parks his car at the stadium to catch a game or a concert can only be asked to leave if "caught." They aren't breaking the law until they refuse to leave and become trespassers. <br />The new law appears to make that same person a criminal.charlesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-84990635734019595632010-01-10T16:53:21.013-05:002010-01-10T16:53:21.013-05:00Not seeing the redefinition of "school,"...Not seeing the redefinition of "school," Charles, and I'd like a read from a lawyer on how this interacts with existing law governing possession in or near schools by LTCH holders. Remember, Indiana law has little provision for any transport of a handgun by persons who lack permits unless they are buying it, selling it or taking it to get fixed.Roberta Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09956807794520627885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-85298479048539341352010-01-10T16:03:35.543-05:002010-01-10T16:03:35.543-05:00The locked-in-your car bills are a nice step in th...The locked-in-your car bills are a nice step in the right direction, but note that they effectively outlaw firearms in cars at schools and colleges and universities. <br /><br />Right now, "school" is so vaguely defined in Indiana law that colleges may not be covered as prohibited areas, but this would make them so.charlesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-78496787027153170532010-01-10T14:34:15.166-05:002010-01-10T14:34:15.166-05:00The problem with either notification by runinng th...The problem with either notification by runinng the plate or with mandatory announcement is that both are feel-good solutions that only affect the law-abiding...<br /><br />The notification by running plates is especially prone to false negatives - say I don't carry but my wife does, and my wife is driving my car; the cop has no idea. Nor does the cop know if he's approaching my (recently stolen and unreported) car that the choir-boy in the front seat isn't going in for his 3rd+ felony...<br /><br />Likewise, as a law-abiding person, I've got no problem letting Officer Friendly know (in a non-confrontational manner) that I am legally packing (assuming, for the nonce, that it is legal to carry with a permit, not that a permit is a defense to illegally carrying). But the guy that Officer Friendly NEEDS to know has a .32 gun in his pocket for fun; he's not going to let Officer Friendly know until it's too late.<br /><br />The dangers of a false negative are high for cops, and, in states such as GA or MA right now, it would be a 5th amendment violation to require announcement.Ian Argenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03704336044732061128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-56635852612681362072010-01-10T08:06:38.621-05:002010-01-10T08:06:38.621-05:00Turk, if LEOs have to know, that sounds like a goo...Turk, if LEOs have to know, that sounds like a good way.Roberta Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09956807794520627885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-3548599986783081452010-01-10T02:57:59.302-05:002010-01-10T02:57:59.302-05:00In Virginia, the LEO's in-car laptop can tie y...In Virginia, the LEO's in-car laptop can tie your license plate to your CHL, so, unless you're from out of state, they know before they approach your window.<br /><br />wv: slumbur<br />Sleeping in the ghetto.Turk Turonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02648721047835980871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-6970442582114963132010-01-09T23:53:49.911-05:002010-01-09T23:53:49.911-05:00We also have "immediate disclosure" when...We also have "immediate disclosure" when approached by LEOs in the course of official duty, here in Alaska. Massad Ayoob recommends, "Officer, I carry concealed, and am carrying now" as opposed to "I've got a gun". Since <i>everybody</i> in Alaska carries 99% of the time, it's a good way to avoid misunderstandings.Rev. Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04588179227576383679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-18240514390846842072010-01-09T23:41:08.786-05:002010-01-09T23:41:08.786-05:00BTW, it's a Colt Government .380BTW, it's a Colt Government .380Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-8602882366427554302010-01-09T23:31:05.452-05:002010-01-09T23:31:05.452-05:00Here in Texas if we have a weapon and we are stopp...Here in Texas if we have a weapon and we are stopped we are required to inform the LEO that we have a licensed firearm. No issues here that I am aware of. Most are comfortable. One even asked my wife, "What kinda gun ya got?"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-7187044842408236882010-01-09T21:52:13.402-05:002010-01-09T21:52:13.402-05:00The "I gotta gun" law seems to be a prod...The "I gotta gun" law seems to be a product of a couple of squirrels (or ward heelers for the Chicago machine, which was politically powerful as far as South Bend and Rensselaer when I was operating out of Valpariso) who like to make cops even more nervous than they already are when they make a stop. <br /><br />Those declarations serve no useful purpose, but only further increase the 1 in 8 chance of an a jumpy LEO shooting a civilian "in error." <br /><br />"Katrina bills are good," but the worst thing that came out of Katrina was not the death and destruction but the virtual repeal of the Posse Comitatus Act. Someone is going to pay dearly for that in blood, sooner rather than later. <br /><br />StrangerStrangerhttp://extranosalley.comnoreply@blogger.com