tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post3223020938667055568..comments2024-03-28T20:53:49.167-04:00Comments on The Adventures of Roberta X: Welcome To The New Future™Roberta Xhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09956807794520627885noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-19221713251066422212012-04-11T07:24:55.953-04:002012-04-11T07:24:55.953-04:00So -- if The Government jumped off a cliff, you...So -- if The Government jumped off a cliff, you'd feel justified in doing so as well?Roberta Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09956807794520627885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-69171448229757205782012-04-10T22:09:16.975-04:002012-04-10T22:09:16.975-04:00Just because congress lards the census with irrele...Just because congress lards the census with irrelevant questions does not make those questions intelligent, "the crock pot".<br /><br />NEVER SAID OR SUGGESTED THEY WERE INTELLIGENT.<br /><br />If you can have kids with a group of people, and those kids are not sterile or deformed, then they are the same species you are, and any skin, hair, or eye color differences are not very important to a trained biologist.<br /><br />WHAT TRAINED BIOLOGIST USES THE TERM 'RACE' AS SYNONYMOUS WITH 'SPECIES'?<br /><br />Some folks are too clever - just because they don't believe in 'race' does not mean that the society they live in doesn't - in fact here in the good ol USA, race is the law.<br /><br />- The Crock PotAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-41105324704629004922012-04-10T06:44:17.504-04:002012-04-10T06:44:17.504-04:00Derbyshire was off the money and in two ways, one ...Derbyshire was <i>off</i> the money and in two ways, one of which your own comments admuts, "RegT:" you wrote "...<i>portions</i> of...," which immediately gives the lie to his (and by declaration, your) sweeping condemnation of Americans by skin color. Those "portions" are not the whole -- or should we judge you based on the actions of skinheads and thugs?<br /><br /> Conversely, his comments endorse by omission a false sense of safety around non-black citizens.<br /><br /> "Statistically," most of the people you meet won't harm you; a few will, though, and you do yourself no favors by deciding some subset of them is "safe." Better to be wary of everyone.<br /><br /> As for the Zimmerman/Martin mess, while it might be legal to go following "suspicious strangers," it's not especially clever, as events have proven. Pretty hard to blame that on "black culture" -- unless you're already predisposed to do so.Roberta Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09956807794520627885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-80735367304788202692012-04-10T00:33:55.902-04:002012-04-10T00:33:55.902-04:00Too little time to waste reading every comment her...Too little time to waste reading every comment here, but felt moved to post something you may have already seen:<br /><br />"There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery. Then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved." -- Jesse Jackson<br /><br />Derbyshire was on the money. I hold no animosity toward anyone due to their skin color or ethnicity, but portions of black culture do its own an injustice, and there simply is no escaping that fact. How anyone can read about Trayvon Martin and believe otherwise is a mystery.RegTnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-82586061250840683432012-04-10T00:32:38.150-04:002012-04-10T00:32:38.150-04:00Just because congress lards the census with irrele...Just because congress lards the census with irrelevant questions does not make those questions intelligent, "the crock pot".<br /><br />If you can have kids with a group of people, and those kids are not sterile or deformed, then they are the same species you are, and any skin, hair, or eye color differences are not very important to a trained biologist.Kristophrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08370888276707569365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-13075168159297179952012-04-10T00:29:37.828-04:002012-04-10T00:29:37.828-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Kristophrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08370888276707569365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-76746052549671090012012-04-09T22:43:03.828-04:002012-04-09T22:43:03.828-04:00Every time somebody with a degree ending in "...Every time somebody with a degree ending in "...of the Arts" uses the word "race" in regard to humans, anybody who can tell a chromosome from a crock pot gets a chuckle. <br /><br /><br />Hah Ha. You funny person Tam. You miss last census where half the question ask what race or ethnicity you are?<br /><br />- The Crock PotAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-10019955730632657162012-04-09T18:19:59.270-04:002012-04-09T18:19:59.270-04:00If you want to do away with the double standard, p...If you want to do away with the double standard, point at it relentlessly when you see it in the other guy, don't whip it out to argue why your guy should get a pass because we should be allowed just as much race-baiting/misogyny/overall boorishness as they should.<br /><br />The article doesn't get better for being "passive" fear-the-stupid-black-folk, or being good advice <i>once you remove the racial framing</i>. It's not some innocent intellectual thought exercise, either- Derbyshire has danced around this issue for years, sometimes with a poor-politically-incorrect-me stance, sometimes by saying flat out that <a href="http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2003/01/001708.php" rel="nofollow">The Republican Party</a> depends on people like him who "seriously dislike black people".<br /><br />You see this as a team sport, or an outright war between Right and Left in which the other team is born on that team and dies on that team and will forever seek to destroy your team.<br /><br />I see a country with a lot of people with different political outlooks, most of whom don't see themselves as being on a team or in a war. The gun issue is actually a picture perfect example of how much public political opinion can change over time. As Tam is wont to point out, many of the victories and normalcies we enjoy now would have been unthinkable in 1994.<br /><br />We do not need to embrace or defend Derbyshire because he's "on our team". We need to kick him the hell off the roster.LabRathttp://www.atomicnerds.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-20279663190055097052012-04-09T17:57:01.765-04:002012-04-09T17:57:01.765-04:00When I said that some of what Derbyshire had to sa...When I said that some of what Derbyshire had to say was rough, I had in mind some of the things like IWSB's--"Intelligent Well-Socialized Blacks" being very desirable to be friends with, for the purpose of establishing one's tolerance <i>bona fides</i>. That's making use of someone as a sort of social accessory; people have value which exists for reasons other than that grubby sort of consideration.<br /><br />But--<i>"And it IS whining whenever you defend bad behavior among your own tribe with the equivalent of "but Jimmy hit Rosie just last week and HE didn't get in trouble!"</i> Is it still whining if I laugh helplessly while pointing out the double standard?<br /><br />Well, whining though it be, in that schoolyard characterization, the intent of doing away with a double standard is to have a common set of rules for both sides of a dispute. And the "bad behavior" which ought to be opposed consists of an online column which counsels passivity, even though one might think it silly, embarrassing, or hurtful to someone's feelings. <br /><br />Trying to convince Leftists, even the reasonable ones (even the Obama voters?), that not all shooters or conservatives are skittish racists, that some of them really are good people, concedes too much, I think. One is always in the position of waiting to see what the Left defines as the next outré position to be attacked.<br /><br />I concede, in advance, my possible unconscious bias in this. I see a lot more threat to shooters and conservatives from the Left, than threats to the Left from shooters and conservatives. At least if gun-control organizations are anything to go by.<br /><br />Mike JamesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-42724861422057399402012-04-09T15:49:43.588-04:002012-04-09T15:49:43.588-04:00I happen to fall on the list of people who avoid g...I happen to fall on the list of people who avoid groups of other people on the streets at night. I'm not sure who wouldn't that was paying any attention. <br /><br />Groups of young men can be dangerous. Anyone on the street in certain areas, or times of day, can be dangerous. Water is wet, and if you eat too much you get fat. I don't walk down the street with my hand on a pistol, but I don't fan myself with 100's either.<br /><br />I also am a member of the group of people that are wary of any interactions with the police. Again, not all cops are bad people, or even most of them, but all it takes is one time. <br /><br />If I politely assume that I'm screwed I'm better off than putting on rose colored glasses.<br /><br />BTW, I reported all of this to Attackwatch.com so Obama knows who to blame for the race war.Woodmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17258502914515356626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-36468797060289417822012-04-09T15:49:40.835-04:002012-04-09T15:49:40.835-04:00I happen to fall on the list of people who avoid g...I happen to fall on the list of people who avoid groups of other people on the streets at night. I'm not sure who wouldn't that was paying any attention. <br /><br />Groups of young men can be dangerous. Anyone on the street in certain areas, or times of day, can be dangerous. Water is wet, and if you eat too much you get fat. I don't walk down the street with my hand on a pistol, but I don't fan myself with 100's either.<br /><br />I also am a member of the group of people that are wary of any interactions with the police. Again, not all cops are bad people, or even most of them, but all it takes is one time. <br /><br />If I politely assume that I'm screwed I'm better off than putting on rose colored glasses.<br /><br />BTW, I reported all of this to Attackwatch.com so Obama knows who to blame for the race war.Woodmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17258502914515356626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-12462974573094425742012-04-09T15:47:19.437-04:002012-04-09T15:47:19.437-04:00Cool beans, Roberta. I'll mind my own freakin&...Cool beans, Roberta. I'll mind my own freakin' business then, and I apologize to both you and JTG for intruding.Kristophrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08370888276707569365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-37486265185722485692012-04-09T10:21:37.306-04:002012-04-09T10:21:37.306-04:00Last I heard, there's about 7 Billion members ...Last I heard, there's about 7 Billion members of Homo Sapiens Sapiens running around on this planet. Each one carries unique Genetic Characteristics that comes from ancestors that each person had no control over choosing. But the Racists on all sides of the Political Spectrum seem to think that it's "Their" time to spew their Nonsense, and people are getting Hurt and Killed with this crap (Tulsa comes to mind).<br /><br />But their also seems to be some "Tacit" support from certain "Political Elites" to keep the Pot stirred up, just so they can keep their "Bases" Happy and Voting.<br /><br />I don't see this Insanity ending well.Bubblehead Les.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00730873284089958084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-2648855088812825922012-04-09T09:14:25.160-04:002012-04-09T09:14:25.160-04:00His words make me yawn. The reaction makes me shak...His words make me yawn. The reaction makes me shake my head. So he wrote something and people agree/disagree. Again, he didn't do or say anything that isn't said by people of different races who get a pass.<br /><br />I don't like him but I fail to see the big deal. Plus, Obama will fix everything. :)SGBhttp://seriousgun.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-65754737252999403242012-04-09T07:58:45.536-04:002012-04-09T07:58:45.536-04:00Anon 10:45,
"Derb's sin in today's p...Anon 10:45,<br /><br />"<i>Derb's sin in today's political environment was bringing out hard statistical data...</i>"<br /><br />Every time somebody with a degree ending in "...of the Arts" uses the word "race" in regard to humans, anybody who can tell a chromosome from a crock pot gets a chuckle.Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-27636407908248959352012-04-08T23:21:46.384-04:002012-04-08T23:21:46.384-04:00Kristopher: In re "Just," tsk. That'...Kristopher: In re "Just," tsk. That's between him and me; he's a good boy for sticking to the deal.<br /><br /> I will point out that the original "The Talk" is a guide to dealing with the po-lice -- and the way things are going, we would all do well to heed it. "A soft answer turneth away wrath," and a rolling camera wouldn't hurt either -- most officers are a-okay, but don't think Officer Harless was a lone wolf.Roberta Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09956807794520627885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-58263420746575204082012-04-08T23:04:59.242-04:002012-04-08T23:04:59.242-04:00An evil monlithic "the Left" theoretical...An evil monlithic "the Left" theoretically paints us as equally evil. In practice a lot of people who are to the left of us point out that we do stuff like defend guys that say we should fear blacks (with a mix of sensible precautions to take around potentially hostile outsiders of any color, depending on your place and context, plus hogwash) and call them brave truth-tellers. I've only met a tiny handful of those "the Left" that think we're all evil no matter what. I've met a whole bunch more reasonable people to the left of me who look at stuff like this and go "Uh..."<br /><br />So yeah, I have a problem with handing reasonable people confirmation of their suspicions that maybe conservatives and shooters really are skittish racists.<br /><br />And it IS whining whenever you defend bad behavior among your own tribe with the equivalent of "but Jimmy hit Rosie just last week and HE didn't get in trouble!" <br /><br />If you call calling out your own for poor behavior a "mug's game", then I guess I'm a mug.LabRathttp://www.atomicnerds.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-77558026925426080662012-04-08T22:52:34.201-04:002012-04-08T22:52:34.201-04:00Anon 10:20:
Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/w...Anon 10:20:<br /><br />Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWGCIm4GNQE<br /><br />and get back to us. Black kids get that "talk" in order to save their lives. Lots of folks are still scared by mere skin color.Kristophrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08370888276707569365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-18353702754315423542012-04-08T22:49:17.490-04:002012-04-08T22:49:17.490-04:00Labrat:
That is one thing I have never understood...Labrat:<br /><br />That is one thing I have never understood about Nazis and the KKK:<br /><br />If Jews and blacks are all such incredibly dangerous masterminds, then wouldn't it make sense to marry one, and have a bunch of kids that will be members of this supposed master race?Kristophrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08370888276707569365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-66564681789158648532012-04-08T22:48:35.588-04:002012-04-08T22:48:35.588-04:00Derb's sin in today's political environmen...Derb's sin in today's political environment was bringing out hard statistical data that is terribly inconvenient to the modern multi-cultural mythology that has taken over American public discourse. It seems that no one wants to read the FBI UCR and other social datasets and draw statistically valid conclusions from the data therein, which mostly square with Derb's analysis.<br /><br />The reason why NR/NRO fired him is (as other readers alluded), NR is now run by a bunch of effect, mincing, silk-pantywaist pecksniffs who style themselves as "intellectuals."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-62510769726600978122012-04-08T22:45:07.756-04:002012-04-08T22:45:07.756-04:00Did you ban Justthisguy, Roberta?
He's respon...Did you ban Justthisguy, Roberta?<br /><br />He's responding to this post over at Tam's blog ... heh.<br /><br />He seems to have problems with the concept of IQ tests only reliably measuring the ability to take a given IQ test.Kristophrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08370888276707569365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-32427865929999503182012-04-08T22:20:56.020-04:002012-04-08T22:20:56.020-04:00I'd like to see an example of "The Talk&q...I'd like to see an example of "The Talk" given to young black kids, to compare with the Derb has written. To me Derbs article seems to be a piece written in outrage over the paranoid suggestion that the crackers are out to get them, or some such rot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-19503419300140923062012-04-08T21:51:49.021-04:002012-04-08T21:51:49.021-04:00"The left paints us as scared of black people...<i>"The left paints us as scared of black people..."</i><br /><br />They don't stop at "scared". They paint their opponents as evil, and beyond the pale. So much so, that I think that many people who aren't Leftists are unwilling to engage them on the old terms, set by the Left. <br /><br />The race-baiters very much do get a free pass. It's whining to point that out? We're supposed to play this mug's game for all time to come?<br /><br />Mike JamesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-34118947797909975382012-04-08T20:45:32.142-04:002012-04-08T20:45:32.142-04:00Taki is back up, with the article still there... A...Taki is back up, with the article still there... And you could play this in many ways... I disagree with some of his points, but in the main, if you substitue your ethnicity of choice, some of his recommendations do make sense if one is not totally blind to what is going on in the world...Old NFOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16404197287935017147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-40300422979745471942012-04-08T20:35:34.810-04:002012-04-08T20:35:34.810-04:00I liked what I read of Derbyshire's work in th...I liked what I read of Derbyshire's work in the regular National Review, he came down in favor of self-defense, and worked with psychotics in a prison hospital for a while (as a MD I think) and recognized that there were some things that just didn't EVER change. <br />As a kid I lived in an insular racist country with a history of racism and even slavery that goes back a good 3,000+ years and one that helps define the actual functioning social order. That's FAR longer than our brief flirtation with organized commercial racism and the slave trade - a trade that was operating long before we got there, organized and run by a well known group of people who still believe today in the validity of commercial ventures in "human capital." <br />As outsiders we were despised for our skin color (and among other things, our eating habits) and had rocks and firecrackers and un-ripe (hard) fruit and things thrown at us while we were called names like white-monkey and other much-less nice things, so I know exactly how it feels physically and emotionally to be on the wrong side of a negative bias. <br />The socio-political realities of *Food* are also quite great and go way-back to the first water-hole and "Oggs only eats nuts and berries while those spotted-skin folk eat nasty heffalump turds." One of the first recognizable distinctions after Friend-or-Foe is what you will eat and what you won't.NotClauswitzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14358707844087117280noreply@blogger.com