tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post8410302506612352184..comments2024-03-28T10:08:38.560-04:00Comments on The Adventures of Roberta X: Hating On Amazon Drones?Roberta Xhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09956807794520627885noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-38922333515845029962013-12-09T17:57:00.429-05:002013-12-09T17:57:00.429-05:00Jeffro - you haven't had the pleasure of inter...Jeffro - you haven't had the pleasure of interacting with the denizens of my local Mart of Wal (the only grocery of any size here). I'd gladly pay a 30% premium for delivery....fillyjonkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13016436113169230368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-34392770581691772252013-12-09T14:29:14.963-05:002013-12-09T14:29:14.963-05:00It would take a small helicopter to have the paylo...It would take a small helicopter to have the payload to handle a typical order of groceries and supplies I generally purchase. There would be landing issues in my yard, anyways, and cost effectiveness would rear it's ugly head. I'd probably opt to just go out to shop and haul it home myself because it would have to be way cheaper than delivery.Jeffrohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06873138122305060834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-40544033858865689432013-12-09T04:22:00.996-05:002013-12-09T04:22:00.996-05:00"[T]he SCAdian who turns up in every internet...<i>"[T]he SCAdian who turns up in every internet discussion to talk about how guns are for dishonorable weaklings and you should use a sword to make sure it's personal?"</i><br /><br />Heh. Haven't heard that one for a while. Possibly not since the last time some clown used it on me and I armored up and pounded his pointy head flat.Bearhttp://www.bussjaeger.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-70701371660076709392013-12-08T21:48:10.200-05:002013-12-08T21:48:10.200-05:00No Roberta, they haven't lived in an area wher...No Roberta, they haven't lived in an area where checks were stolen out of mailboxes, and snow shovels were stolen off their (half cleared) front porch. "Other kinds of people" live in places where that kind of thing happens. <br /><br />As for drones. You can buy one ready made - complete with GPS routing and camera mount - for something between 500 and 1000 bucks. Know how to roll your own, and they can be had for less than that. (The arduino controller is less than 50 bucks, and I think the software is free - or close to it.)<br /><br />If I can free up some cash in the spring, I intend to build 1 or 2 myself. I even had the idea to turn an old riding lawn-mower into a ground-based drone. Complete with 12 volt supply and charger. I don't have the patience to own a dog, you see.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-33694428462763176722013-12-08T18:07:40.879-05:002013-12-08T18:07:40.879-05:00I confess, my first reaction upon hearing the prop...I confess, my first reaction upon hearing the proposal of drones (with half-hour delivery times) was "YESSS. I am that much closer to never having to set foot in a grocery store ever again."<br /><br />Of course, I live in BFE, so if drones actually materialize as a viable thing in some areas, it'll be 80 years before we get 'em. <br /><br />By then, I'll probably have died by being trampled by someone trying to get the last pre-ice-storm carton of eggs at the wal-mart.fillyjonkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13016436113169230368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-11735529158677483672013-12-08T16:00:03.764-05:002013-12-08T16:00:03.764-05:00"But if the UPS guy walks across your yard to..."<i>But if the UPS guy walks across your yard to get to your neighbor you don't get to hit him with a cosh and take the box either.</i>"<br /><br />sofullofwin.gifTamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-2018394780327595492013-12-08T13:41:56.181-05:002013-12-08T13:41:56.181-05:00There's also a strong whiff of "Let's...There's also a strong whiff of "Let's go smash some looms!"<br /><br />I wonder if smashing the little doors at the automat and grabbing the food is also considered acceptable?<br /><br /><br />Now I suppose that if the drone goes over your property you could make a trespass argument (but the issue of air craft having right of travel over private property is well tread, though there is the question of altitude).<br /><br />But if the UPS guy walks across your yard to get to your neighbor you don't get to hit him with a cosh and take the box either.The Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15173903164209256926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-27319071501950651282013-12-08T13:07:32.307-05:002013-12-08T13:07:32.307-05:00"When a cop shoots you you have a man there. ..."<i>When a cop shoots you you have a man there. When a drone shoots you he is totally anonymous. And that individual was playing a fancy video game.</i>"<br /><br />Why does this remind me of the SCAdian who turns up in every internet discussion to talk about how guns are for dishonorable weaklings and you should use a sword to make sure it's personal?Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-78030111857278820372013-12-08T12:44:43.832-05:002013-12-08T12:44:43.832-05:00I'd feel better about those drones if they fle...I'd feel better about those drones if they flew over roads, not over my house. Borepatchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05029434172945099693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-73619116477964884172013-12-08T11:44:58.989-05:002013-12-08T11:44:58.989-05:00Roger, wilco, out.
Roger, wilco, out.<br />Dave Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04813274491601970838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-79138549798575359182013-12-08T11:32:03.317-05:002013-12-08T11:32:03.317-05:00Proposing strongarm robbery is not a joke. Unless...Proposing strongarm robbery is not a joke. Unless you're a horse's ass.<br /><br /> If you think it's a joke, you're on the wrong blog, and should leave.Roberta Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09956807794520627885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-16246910432295475112013-12-08T11:19:12.320-05:002013-12-08T11:19:12.320-05:00I'm with Dave H on this - the people making th...I'm with Dave H on this - the people making those comments are just making jokes, and it's harmless. The very few who are actually thinking about it are also people who would seriously consider knocking over a UPS/FedEx/mailman for the free stuff too, so it's not like anything is different.Jake (formerly Riposte3)https://www.blogger.com/profile/02976718318892210404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-39252756311154837652013-12-08T10:04:31.039-05:002013-12-08T10:04:31.039-05:00I don't want domestic drone normalization. Pe...I don't want domestic drone normalization. People get used to seeing commercial drones they'll have less issue with government drones. When a cop shoots you you have a man there. When a drone shoots you he is totally anonymous. And that individual was playing a fancy video game.<br /><br />Just because they can doesn't mean they should.New Jovian Thunderbolthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09452246769246304612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-81884911114414706172013-12-08T09:54:03.592-05:002013-12-08T09:54:03.592-05:00Is a little joshing really that big a deal? Nobody...Is a little joshing really that big a deal? Nobody's going to shoot down a drone who hasn't already thought of blasting a UPS truck. Yes, I've talked about trying to catch one, because 1) I think it'd be a fun challenge, and 2) I know I'll never do it, but it's fun to think about how anyway. Just like I think it's fun to think about how I'd get a message to someone without leaving a trail the government can follow. (The best I have so far is HF radios and NVIS antennas.)<br /><br />The possibility of surveillance by these drones has occurred to me. They don't need to be counterfeited. The government has already conscripted telecom and network companies to gather data for them. They can surely think of a way to get Amazon to hand over imagery from obstacle-avoidance cameras.<br />Dave Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04813274491601970838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-79509222182547132442013-12-08T09:46:12.944-05:002013-12-08T09:46:12.944-05:00My only thought is that I'd have to plant some...My only thought is that I'd have to plant some taller trees around the yard so the buggers wouldn't be skimming the grill on short final to the neighbors. <br /><br />And I'd be a little concerned with the possibility of one having mechanical issues. I really don't want two friends to be sitting in a coffee shop chatting about me...<br />"You hear about Miller?"<br /><br />"No. What happened?"<br /><br />"Killed by a drone."<br /><br />"Well, we always knew he was on some government list."<br /><br />"Nah, was one of Amazon's. Dropped a thermos on him."<br /><br /><br /><br />But those are fairly easy fixes in the grand scheme. <br /><br /><br />BGMBGMillerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02848795924399360183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-3907120754977879562013-12-08T08:49:05.302-05:002013-12-08T08:49:05.302-05:00The shoot-to-loot gags are probably a deservedly ...The shoot-to-loot gags are probably a deservedly short fad, but I think they're related to honest worries.<br /><br />So the bird has an Amazon logo. Like the government spook has a press badge on his breast. Logos are easy to copy and paste on a drone fitted with, say, a thermal imaging camera -- the kinds of thing DARPA had figured out years ago.<br /><br />More power to Bezos and his drones, but I think Bob correctly cites the need to work out the ethics, not to mention some practicalities -- maybe including an IFF smart phone application?<br /> Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00034752526895428019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-34269789920876986582013-12-08T08:32:42.862-05:002013-12-08T08:32:42.862-05:00Bob, couldn't TPTB already get that info from ...Bob, couldn't TPTB already get that info from fedex, your credit card or amazon? What is unique about the drone? It drops it on your lawn or whatever, which is publicly viewable. Its not like you are gonna invite the drone in for teachemnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-34496580542429405172013-12-08T08:11:49.506-05:002013-12-08T08:11:49.506-05:00My first thought on hearing about Amazon drones wa...My first thought on hearing about Amazon drones was <i>Is that a collective scream I just heard from FedEx, UPS and the USPS? Has their stock started dropping yet?</i> Then I started thinking about it more: drones delivering pizzas, auto parts, etc. Less congestion on the roads? Jobs lost for low-skill delivery drivers, but opportunities opening up for drone operators and repair people? If drones deliver pizzas, does it mean the end of pizza delivery driver robberies?<br /><br />As for your main point: given the shady link between the NSA and the tech giants, what's to say that NSA doesn't require Bezos to submit delivery data from drones? So if you're a lawn care nut and have Amazon deliver you fertilizer, will the ATF come knocking thinking that you're making bombs? Will the DEA come busting down your door and kill your dogs because you had some Sudafed delivered?<br /><br />It's new technology, and the ethics have to be worked out.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11402651457453813639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5837660608809488753.post-83315276125198751042013-12-08T07:49:18.975-05:002013-12-08T07:49:18.975-05:00Yeah, I don't get that attitude, either.
Plus...Yeah, I don't get that attitude, either.<br /><br />Plus the fact that Bezos is just blue-skying at this point.Fuzzy Curmudgeonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03802539927743643041noreply@blogger.com