And, yes, they really did have an engineer standing watch over the dozen temperamental engines and working the (so to speak) gas pedal: (You've got to click this one).
Doesn't look like a low-stress job.(Does this look like the larval form?)
Sunday, December 12, 2010
"'Throttle?' We Just Ring Down To The Engineer!"
The Dornier Do-X; an airplane that did not have a cockpit so much as it had a bridge: (Click for the whole image).
And, yes, they really did have an engineer standing watch over the dozen temperamental engines and working the (so to speak) gas pedal: (You've got to click this one).
Doesn't look like a low-stress job.
(Does this look like the larval form?)
And, yes, they really did have an engineer standing watch over the dozen temperamental engines and working the (so to speak) gas pedal: (You've got to click this one).Doesn't look like a low-stress job.(Does this look like the larval form?)
Portholes and a dining room.
ReplyDeleteThat really was a flying boat.
A type rating in that behemoth would truly be the ultimate aviation geek accessory. (thanks for the pics!)
ReplyDeleteWhat danno said. Who knew Doogie Howser was a qualified FE?
ReplyDeleteJim
Neat!
ReplyDeleteThat's excellent. I'm seeing a deco-punk webcomic with the crew of adventurers on the Do.X trading jibes with airshippers over the relative merits of their respective platforms.
ReplyDeleteMy own daydreams run more to aluma-punk, if there is such a thing, and a SLAM with a cockpit. Haven't worked out the radiation thing, but "atomic ramjet" is one of the cooler phrases Standard English offers.
Really nice, thank you! (I just came across these guys up in Ashley Indiana, not close to you but darn interesting: http://keads-anotherday.blogspot.com/2010/12/retro-sunday-heavy-metal.html )
ReplyDeleteAny Do-Xs left?
ReplyDeleteLargest flying boat I've ever see is a Short-Sunderland Mk V at Fantasy of Flight in Orlando, Fla.
http://www.fantasyofflight.com/aircraftpages/sunderland.htm
@Stretch: There are, I think, still two airworthy Martin Mars's converted to water-bombers in British Columbia, somewhere. Cap'n Lex had links to some photos of them a year or so ago.
ReplyDelete@Roberta: How many marriage proposals per annum do you turn down? (It seems every woman worth having to do with is either already happily married to someone else, or just isn't into that kind of thing. I think I waited too long.)
Have you seen the Flight Engineer's station for a Lockheed Constellation?
ReplyDeleteFlight engineers on those aircraft weren't junior pilots, like they were on jets such as the 727, but experienced mechanics.
Stretch, no, none exist. The original Do-X was put on display in Berlin in 1936 and was destroyed during an air raid around 1943.
ReplyDeleteTwo Do-Xs were built for the Italian state airline. They apparently were very quietly scrapped in the middle 1930s.
Cool post! Thanks, Rx.
ReplyDeleteBeing work-related, I'll cheerfully say 'yes' on the two airworthy Mars:
http://www.martinmars.com/aircraft.htm
And Evergreen now owns the Hughes HK-1/H-4, although it does not fly.
The one I've always wanted to see & go for a ride in is the P6M-2 but I'll probably have to shuffle off this mortal coil for that ticket. As retro as I want to get for that genre is the Consolidated Catalina...mmmmm, nice!
JustThisGuy: I'm an abysmal housekeeper, you know. :)
ReplyDeleteEB: I was thinking of the older, larger multi-engine planes -- the huge Hughes seaplane had a totally science-fiction FE installation -- but the DoX's looks so amazingly nautical, right down to the grab rail. I've yet to spot throttles in the cockpit proper, either; I haven't found an interior layout but I'd guess the FE position is behind the control cabin, under the wing. "Give us full throttle, Herr Schmidt!"
Ed: Very kewl! I followed links back to GLW. Simply amazing.
ReplyDeleteConsolidated PBYs had the Flight Engineer's station up in the pylon under the wing.
ReplyDeleteYup, Bad Housekeeping is Bad Housekeeping. I R 1, 2. I have have been working on the housekeeping lately, and I can see about 10% of the floor here.
I miss the old houses in which I used to live in Atlanta, with their 11-foot-high ceilings. You could go a long time there without tossing the trash, before your head hit the ceiling. I am only slightly kidding.
Do-X was a failure mostly because of the low-aspect-ratio wing. Rohrbach did it better. The Do-X things could barely rise out of ground effect. The Curtiss engines wern't much better than the Bristols.
ReplyDeleteNow, Bel Geddes' all-wing flying boat was another thing entirely. It had railroad tracks in its engine rooms for swapping engines in flight. I do wonder if it would have worked. I mean, it didn't just have lounges, it had an actual ballroom.
ReplyDeleteComrade, that is nothing, compared to the equivalent station in a B-36. Among the annoying modern media I have to put up with at divine services, there used to be an image which looked exactly like six contrails. I immediately thought, "Obviously, when God wishes to instantiate himself in an airplane, he flies a B-36."
ReplyDeleteHey, if it's good enough for Jimmy Stewart and Curtis LeMay, it's good enough for the Deity. Yah, I know that's kinda blasphemous, but I betcha He'll understand and forgive.
Roberta:
ReplyDeleteThe Kalakala was still operating out of Seattle when I was a little kid. It was AWESOME - the perfect futuristic streamlined ferry boat for the old Seattle, populated by legions of real aerospace engineers, and home to the real Boeing company (as opposed to the multi-culti bureaucratic monster that seems to have consumed it).
Them was the good old days.
BoxStockRacer
Seeing Kalakala moving 'pon the waters must have been genuinely amazing!
ReplyDeleteGoogle's hunt for the Bel
Geddes wing finds a lot of interesting sites.
Justthisguy and I are thinking along the same lines re: B-36. I recall watching the movie "Strategic Air Command" as a kid (my father was in SAC, so it was sort of required!) and being amazed at the FE station. After dealing with all those dials and needles and levers, surgery must have been a snap for Colonel Potter.
ReplyDeleteAnd he got an awesome coat, too!
ReplyDeleteWhat you mostly had to do to have a coat like that was be German. No one else wore them then.
ReplyDeleteI sure like the deco-punk web comic idea. Maybe some adventurous millionaire could connive to buy the two Italian ships, save them from nautical salvage and fly them to New York with a motley crew of characters.
I own a coat like that. It needs mended, a few years back I slipped on the ice and ripped a pocket.
ReplyDelete